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		<title>By: steveblank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got this comment from a CEO of a large public company.

&quot;Any General Counsel  I interview and in every appraisal I do with the General Counsel I tell him there are two primary functions he has.  

The first responsibility is as a risk manager for the company to make sure we protect ourselves.  But I quickly say that if that was the only way he defined his job then we would fail.  

He has a second responsibility and that is to find a way to get business done.  It is only though his balancing those two objectives – risk management and supporting the growth of the business, that the right organization construct can be developed.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got this comment from a CEO of a large public company.</p>
<p>&#8220;Any General Counsel  I interview and in every appraisal I do with the General Counsel I tell him there are two primary functions he has.  </p>
<p>The first responsibility is as a risk manager for the company to make sure we protect ourselves.  But I quickly say that if that was the only way he defined his job then we would fail.  </p>
<p>He has a second responsibility and that is to find a way to get business done.  It is only though his balancing those two objectives – risk management and supporting the growth of the business, that the right organization construct can be developed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: steveblank</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 04:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George,
Much better summary of the issue than my post.

thanks,

steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,<br />
Much better summary of the issue than my post.</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>steve</p>
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		<title>By: George Kellerman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Kellerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I began my professional career as an attorney at Venture Law Group, and then became an in-house attorney at Yahoo!.  After two years of practicing law I moved into business development and general management and never looked back.

While working as an attorney I had the privilege of working for Jon Sobel, then the AGC at Yahoo!, and early in my tenure at Yahoo! he told me, &quot;There is no such thing as a legal issue.  Every point in a contract--even things full of legalese such as indemnification, limitation of liability, venue and choice of law, etc.-- are all business issues that must be decided by the business owners, not the attorneys.&quot;  He also gave me the most valuable advice of all, &quot;Your job as an attorney is to give the business owners advice, not to make decisions for them.&quot;

The real problem comes up when business owners do not understand the purpose of a written contract.  In the typical US scenario a contract only serves two purposes: (1) to provide a road map for performance, and (2) to allocate risk between the parties.  That&#039;s it, and when business owners understand the implications of that fact, then the contract drafting process and subsequent negotiations becomes much easier.

In other words, when the business owners have fully thought out the details of who is going to do what and when, and what risks they are willing and unwilling to accept, then drafting and negotiating the contract is easy.  The reason so many attorneys become decision makers is because the business owners throw a half-baked &quot;deal&quot; at them and say, &quot;Paper it.&quot;  In those situations the real thinking is often being done by the attorney who may or may not understand the business or the needs of the parties, and that is when you end up with form agreements that do not reflect reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began my professional career as an attorney at Venture Law Group, and then became an in-house attorney at Yahoo!.  After two years of practicing law I moved into business development and general management and never looked back.</p>
<p>While working as an attorney I had the privilege of working for Jon Sobel, then the AGC at Yahoo!, and early in my tenure at Yahoo! he told me, &#8220;There is no such thing as a legal issue.  Every point in a contract&#8211;even things full of legalese such as indemnification, limitation of liability, venue and choice of law, etc.&#8211; are all business issues that must be decided by the business owners, not the attorneys.&#8221;  He also gave me the most valuable advice of all, &#8220;Your job as an attorney is to give the business owners advice, not to make decisions for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The real problem comes up when business owners do not understand the purpose of a written contract.  In the typical US scenario a contract only serves two purposes: (1) to provide a road map for performance, and (2) to allocate risk between the parties.  That&#8217;s it, and when business owners understand the implications of that fact, then the contract drafting process and subsequent negotiations becomes much easier.</p>
<p>In other words, when the business owners have fully thought out the details of who is going to do what and when, and what risks they are willing and unwilling to accept, then drafting and negotiating the contract is easy.  The reason so many attorneys become decision makers is because the business owners throw a half-baked &#8220;deal&#8221; at them and say, &#8220;Paper it.&#8221;  In those situations the real thinking is often being done by the attorney who may or may not understand the business or the needs of the parties, and that is when you end up with form agreements that do not reflect reality.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Post.  

As one of those awful attorneys, I can attest to risk aversion.  Something that is important for attorneys to understand is that deal makers, entrepreneurs or not, are verbose, to say the least.  Our job as attorney is to analyze, decipher and assess risk.  I try my best to be a solutions person, however, I will also present a &quot;but.&quot;  If you hang on every word (which is our training), you will find your head spinning with liability questions.  

Entrepreneurs.  As the post says, use attorneys as tools in your tool box.  It doesn&#039;t demean our profession.  You also need to know that attorneys, in their constant &quot;what if the glass is half empty&quot; mode also worry about there own liabilities.  If, people are fickle, deal makers are down right schizophrenic.  When I see a contract involving large sums of consideration and potential, I look around to see who is going to get the blame if things go south.  We are providing a service, but we are also covering our asses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post.  </p>
<p>As one of those awful attorneys, I can attest to risk aversion.  Something that is important for attorneys to understand is that deal makers, entrepreneurs or not, are verbose, to say the least.  Our job as attorney is to analyze, decipher and assess risk.  I try my best to be a solutions person, however, I will also present a &#8220;but.&#8221;  If you hang on every word (which is our training), you will find your head spinning with liability questions.  </p>
<p>Entrepreneurs.  As the post says, use attorneys as tools in your tool box.  It doesn&#8217;t demean our profession.  You also need to know that attorneys, in their constant &#8220;what if the glass is half empty&#8221; mode also worry about there own liabilities.  If, people are fickle, deal makers are down right schizophrenic.  When I see a contract involving large sums of consideration and potential, I look around to see who is going to get the blame if things go south.  We are providing a service, but we are also covering our asses.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Birch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Birch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I generally agree with the thrust of your post. Lawyers have a very specific place in the start-up cycle that often times goes outside the bounds of helpful to the founding team.

If I may digress, I look at the types of skills that are required to build a start-up and grow it into a business. Two critical skills are usually lacking in most founder teams: financial acumen and risk management. While in the earliest stages these are not necessary, as the start-up begins to take on customers, partners, suppliers, etc., having these skills becomes essential. Unfortunately, these also tend to be expensive skills to acquire, particularly in the areas that attract the most start-ups.

Too many times, I have seen start-ups go sideways when there is a lack of fiscal discipline and a lack of proper legal vetting. Plus, it is important to have the &quot;devil&#039;s advocate&quot; voice close to the team to temper the unbridled optimism that most founders exhibit. That does not mean that the optimism is bad, it simply means that have a &quot;no&quot; voice to consider can often be helpful when running at 1000 mph in getting the start-up launched.

So you are right, lawyers do not run start-ups generally. Having someone that can understand and elucidate risks is however an important voice in the start-up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally agree with the thrust of your post. Lawyers have a very specific place in the start-up cycle that often times goes outside the bounds of helpful to the founding team.</p>
<p>If I may digress, I look at the types of skills that are required to build a start-up and grow it into a business. Two critical skills are usually lacking in most founder teams: financial acumen and risk management. While in the earliest stages these are not necessary, as the start-up begins to take on customers, partners, suppliers, etc., having these skills becomes essential. Unfortunately, these also tend to be expensive skills to acquire, particularly in the areas that attract the most start-ups.</p>
<p>Too many times, I have seen start-ups go sideways when there is a lack of fiscal discipline and a lack of proper legal vetting. Plus, it is important to have the &#8220;devil&#8217;s advocate&#8221; voice close to the team to temper the unbridled optimism that most founders exhibit. That does not mean that the optimism is bad, it simply means that have a &#8220;no&#8221; voice to consider can often be helpful when running at 1000 mph in getting the start-up launched.</p>
<p>So you are right, lawyers do not run start-ups generally. Having someone that can understand and elucidate risks is however an important voice in the start-up.</p>
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		<title>By: dan nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan nguyen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am attorney and this is a great article. Too many times when I tell people what I do, they think I tank deals. I try to explain to them, like what has mentioned above, its all about risk/reward, and ultimately is a business decision on what you can and what you can&#039;t live with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am attorney and this is a great article. Too many times when I tell people what I do, they think I tank deals. I try to explain to them, like what has mentioned above, its all about risk/reward, and ultimately is a business decision on what you can and what you can&#8217;t live with.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri Ammosov</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuri Ammosov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, I know this fellow, he is good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I know this fellow, he is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri Ammosov</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuri Ammosov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I told my students only yesterday -- &quot;If a lawyer tells you &quot;You cant&#039; do this&quot; instead of &quot;This is how you can do this&quot; - fire him, he&#039;s adding to problems rather than solving them. 

Definitely something in the air these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told my students only yesterday &#8212; &#8220;If a lawyer tells you &#8220;You cant&#8217; do this&#8221; instead of &#8220;This is how you can do this&#8221; &#8211; fire him, he&#8217;s adding to problems rather than solving them. </p>
<p>Definitely something in the air these days.</p>
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		<title>By: alexbabin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alexbabin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, thanks for you blog and specially for your book. It was hard to get hands on it here in Russia. I&#039;m a founder and CEO of a russian sartup and wonder how can I get in touch with you. I didn&#039;t found your e-mail at your blog. Can you advise me how can I write you an e-mail? Thank you in advance. Alex Babin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, thanks for you blog and specially for your book. It was hard to get hands on it here in Russia. I&#8217;m a founder and CEO of a russian sartup and wonder how can I get in touch with you. I didn&#8217;t found your e-mail at your blog. Can you advise me how can I write you an e-mail? Thank you in advance. Alex Babin</p>
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		<title>By: Yokum Taku</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yokum Taku]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 02:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave - I&#039;ll still take the compliment even if we can&#039;t pass #3.

Steve - I&#039;m assuming that you&#039;re referring to WSGR attorneys in the Epiphany story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I&#8217;ll still take the compliment even if we can&#8217;t pass #3.</p>
<p>Steve &#8211; I&#8217;m assuming that you&#8217;re referring to WSGR attorneys in the Epiphany story.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 18:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a lawyer and someone who runs a startup (www.ProfessionalsBidding.com) I can relate to both sides of this equation. 

My favorite line of this article is &quot;So we had to decide what deal points we could live with that wouldn’t kill our company.&quot; I think this line is exactly what a lot of this boils down to and that is the balancing of risks and rewards. 

With contracts you will be getting something of value to your company (otherwise you wouldn&#039;t be signing it). This value needs to be weighed against what risks you are taking in signing the contract. Many lawyers (but not all) focus on the risk side of this equation. Being that risk is half of the equation, that is very valuable knowledge to have in making a good decision. After the lawyer makes you aware of the risks, it is the risk-taker&#039;s/entrepreneur&#039;s decision whether the perceived value outweighs this risk.   The lawyer is not, nor should they be, the risk-taker in the situation.

You can try and try to negotiate the contract but at the end of the day, as an entrepreneur, you must decide what deal points you can live with that won&#039;t &#039;kill your company&#039;. Then, and only then, will you receive the value of the contract without putting your company in jeopardy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lawyer and someone who runs a startup (www.ProfessionalsBidding.com) I can relate to both sides of this equation. </p>
<p>My favorite line of this article is &#8220;So we had to decide what deal points we could live with that wouldn’t kill our company.&#8221; I think this line is exactly what a lot of this boils down to and that is the balancing of risks and rewards. </p>
<p>With contracts you will be getting something of value to your company (otherwise you wouldn&#8217;t be signing it). This value needs to be weighed against what risks you are taking in signing the contract. Many lawyers (but not all) focus on the risk side of this equation. Being that risk is half of the equation, that is very valuable knowledge to have in making a good decision. After the lawyer makes you aware of the risks, it is the risk-taker&#8217;s/entrepreneur&#8217;s decision whether the perceived value outweighs this risk.   The lawyer is not, nor should they be, the risk-taker in the situation.</p>
<p>You can try and try to negotiate the contract but at the end of the day, as an entrepreneur, you must decide what deal points you can live with that won&#8217;t &#8216;kill your company&#8217;. Then, and only then, will you receive the value of the contract without putting your company in jeopardy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Horn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Horn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom,

You say that &quot;the best ones identify &#039;realistic risk&#039;.&quot;  I would add that the best ones  help you quantify that risk, in terms of probabilities and dollars, so that you can determine the expected value of the downside (e.g. if there&#039;s a 10% probability of a $50,000 downside event, then the expected value of the downside is $5,000).

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>You say that &#8220;the best ones identify &#8216;realistic risk&#8217;.&#8221;  I would add that the best ones  help you quantify that risk, in terms of probabilities and dollars, so that you can determine the expected value of the downside (e.g. if there&#8217;s a 10% probability of a $50,000 downside event, then the expected value of the downside is $5,000).</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: John Horn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Horn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

I&#039;d suggest that a good way to determine whether a lawyer &quot;gets it&quot; is to ask him or her to describe what they do when the other side provides a contract draft that&#039;s an extremely one-sided.  To the extent their answer describes strategies and tactics similar to those in Fisher and Ury&#039;s &quot;Getting to Yes,&quot; you&#039;ve probably got a keeper.

John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest that a good way to determine whether a lawyer &#8220;gets it&#8221; is to ask him or her to describe what they do when the other side provides a contract draft that&#8217;s an extremely one-sided.  To the extent their answer describes strategies and tactics similar to those in Fisher and Ury&#8217;s &#8220;Getting to Yes,&#8221; you&#8217;ve probably got a keeper.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Robbert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading this blog post I was actually pretty surprised that you did not immediately considered their boilerplate contract to be an off-the-shelve fabrication that no supplier actually signs. That was our natural first reaction with such contracts.

My personal experience was similar to worse with one of our first customers. The initial call we had was with the lawyer of that customer, who explicitly told us that we were not even worth his time, because the contract value was too small. We explained his attitude to our product champions, who set things straight. The positive effect was that the whole boilerplate contract went liquid. 

We also had a lawyer with a &#039;solutions&#039; attitude. Even better, he was very convinced that we could push some of the nonsense out of the contract, because he knew most of the legal stuff is indeed generated by people that want to have a say, while it does not make any sense under normal conditions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this blog post I was actually pretty surprised that you did not immediately considered their boilerplate contract to be an off-the-shelve fabrication that no supplier actually signs. That was our natural first reaction with such contracts.</p>
<p>My personal experience was similar to worse with one of our first customers. The initial call we had was with the lawyer of that customer, who explicitly told us that we were not even worth his time, because the contract value was too small. We explained his attitude to our product champions, who set things straight. The positive effect was that the whole boilerplate contract went liquid. </p>
<p>We also had a lawyer with a &#8216;solutions&#8217; attitude. Even better, he was very convinced that we could push some of the nonsense out of the contract, because he knew most of the legal stuff is indeed generated by people that want to have a say, while it does not make any sense under normal conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Makarius</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Makarius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree with Steve or Tom more.  As a business advisor with a legal background, I am often the person clients and colleagues turn to when attorneys tell them not to do something and see this sort of issue frequently.
As Tom says, &quot;Lawyers identify risk.&quot;  Their job is to keep you out of trouble and tell you where trouble can come from.  Their concern is not &quot;getting a deal done,&quot; they way it may be for management.  Every contract you sign is going to involve some risk, giving up something in exchange for something else.  Even a contract to buy office supplies carries the risk that the supplier will not deliver and you will lose the cash you spent.  As such the &quot;safest&quot; you can be is never signing any deals, but we all know this is a poor way to run a business.  There are some excellent attorneys who are aware of this and understand business enough to have meaningful discussions around business terms, but there are also plenty who are completely blind to the business side of a legal document.
As management, your goals with an attorney should be to 1) separate issues that relate to business terms from those that are purely legal terms. 
2) allow your attorneys room to negotiate the purely legal terms, because there are terms that will be negotiated by lawyers that have little if any impact on the actual business terms.
3) understand what the business terms they have flagged really mean and be prepared to negotiate those with the other party&#039;s business people.
Too often management let&#039;s the legal departments do all the negotiations, even on matters that are not solely legal issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with Steve or Tom more.  As a business advisor with a legal background, I am often the person clients and colleagues turn to when attorneys tell them not to do something and see this sort of issue frequently.<br />
As Tom says, &#8220;Lawyers identify risk.&#8221;  Their job is to keep you out of trouble and tell you where trouble can come from.  Their concern is not &#8220;getting a deal done,&#8221; they way it may be for management.  Every contract you sign is going to involve some risk, giving up something in exchange for something else.  Even a contract to buy office supplies carries the risk that the supplier will not deliver and you will lose the cash you spent.  As such the &#8220;safest&#8221; you can be is never signing any deals, but we all know this is a poor way to run a business.  There are some excellent attorneys who are aware of this and understand business enough to have meaningful discussions around business terms, but there are also plenty who are completely blind to the business side of a legal document.<br />
As management, your goals with an attorney should be to 1) separate issues that relate to business terms from those that are purely legal terms.<br />
2) allow your attorneys room to negotiate the purely legal terms, because there are terms that will be negotiated by lawyers that have little if any impact on the actual business terms.<br />
3) understand what the business terms they have flagged really mean and be prepared to negotiate those with the other party&#8217;s business people.<br />
Too often management let&#8217;s the legal departments do all the negotiations, even on matters that are not solely legal issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Sachin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 09:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my brother is a lawyer and he is planning to launch a startup..i have to show this post to him....]]></description>
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		<title>By: dave broadwin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 01:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love your post.  We all feel your pain.  But, based purely on what you say, it sounds like all worked out well in the end and your lawyer made some good points and some poor points. It sounds like you did the right thing.  You thought about the points,  and you used good judgement to discard the poor points.  Here is my question to you:  Were the good points, which apparently led to actual changes in the deal docs, worth the dollars paid to your lawyer?  Here is another question:  Was it unambiguous from the start what were the good points and what were the poor points?  (I agree that escrowing software in the event of bankruptcy is probably OK and should not lead to much comment.  So,that by itself suggests some lack of business acumen.)  And one final question:  Did your lawyer offer solutions to the issues raised that had a chance of working for you and the counter-party (this is another way of asking if he or she understood the other side&#039;s point of view)?  If the answer is that he or she provided suggestions for solutions that worked for both parties, then he or she completed the Zen of legal advice.  Although he or she did not cover himself or herself with glory, it sounds like your lawyer may have done an adequate job (probably not a great job).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your post.  We all feel your pain.  But, based purely on what you say, it sounds like all worked out well in the end and your lawyer made some good points and some poor points. It sounds like you did the right thing.  You thought about the points,  and you used good judgement to discard the poor points.  Here is my question to you:  Were the good points, which apparently led to actual changes in the deal docs, worth the dollars paid to your lawyer?  Here is another question:  Was it unambiguous from the start what were the good points and what were the poor points?  (I agree that escrowing software in the event of bankruptcy is probably OK and should not lead to much comment.  So,that by itself suggests some lack of business acumen.)  And one final question:  Did your lawyer offer solutions to the issues raised that had a chance of working for you and the counter-party (this is another way of asking if he or she understood the other side&#8217;s point of view)?  If the answer is that he or she provided suggestions for solutions that worked for both parties, then he or she completed the Zen of legal advice.  Although he or she did not cover himself or herself with glory, it sounds like your lawyer may have done an adequate job (probably not a great job).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul..</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul..]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 23:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very true, although as a couple of others have suggested the post could be entitled &#039;why lawyer&#039;s don&#039;t run your company&#039;.  I witnessed (from a position where I was unable to make any changes unfortunately) the recent scenario of a very large enterprise software deal with a mining giant going south as the contracts had simply been &#039;passed to the lawyers&#039;.  There were some sticky clauses in there, for sure, but a number that could have/should have been negotiated between the parties first before going back to legal - exactly as you suggest.

Often it&#039;s far too easy, or seen as being compliant to simply flick every contract over to the legal dept the moment it lands on the desk, with big implications for costs, timing and sometimes the closeness of the business relationship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, although as a couple of others have suggested the post could be entitled &#8216;why lawyer&#8217;s don&#8217;t run your company&#8217;.  I witnessed (from a position where I was unable to make any changes unfortunately) the recent scenario of a very large enterprise software deal with a mining giant going south as the contracts had simply been &#8216;passed to the lawyers&#8217;.  There were some sticky clauses in there, for sure, but a number that could have/should have been negotiated between the parties first before going back to legal &#8211; exactly as you suggest.</p>
<p>Often it&#8217;s far too easy, or seen as being compliant to simply flick every contract over to the legal dept the moment it lands on the desk, with big implications for costs, timing and sometimes the closeness of the business relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Ankit Agarwal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ankit Agarwal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 21:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey! 

I just read this post and felt good - because its exactly what we did with a major customer over the last two weeks. We discussed the business intent on the various clauses in the contract, found what made sense, and then passed it on to the lawyers to make sure the &quot;legalese&quot; as there. We, of course, need the lawyers to tighten the language and think about the various issues. 

The contract appears after various business, strategy and technical discussions.  I think its fair to say that both parties feel the partnership would benefit themselves and each other. Lawyers should not become a roadblock.]]></description>
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<p>I just read this post and felt good &#8211; because its exactly what we did with a major customer over the last two weeks. We discussed the business intent on the various clauses in the contract, found what made sense, and then passed it on to the lawyers to make sure the &#8220;legalese&#8221; as there. We, of course, need the lawyers to tighten the language and think about the various issues. </p>
<p>The contract appears after various business, strategy and technical discussions.  I think its fair to say that both parties feel the partnership would benefit themselves and each other. Lawyers should not become a roadblock.</p>
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